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Is that a scratch?
Ti frames offer interesting and different finishing options. In the past I’ve done frames in both brushed (shiny) and blasted (matt satin) finishes.
Satin is much cheaper than brushed. You blast the frame and it smooths the surface to one neutral finish. Brushing costs a lot more. Because a guy has to go all over the frame and get a consistent brushed polish all over it. Lynskey can do mirror polishing too. But it takes one guy about two days to do it. And it’d scratch up on a mountainbike.
I like industrial finishes. The Japanese call it Wabi-Sabi.I got into this wabi-sabi stuff particularly from following the creations of motorcycle designer Shinya Kimura. He does ace work. And loves bare, just-worked finishes. I love it too.
So I have been working with Lynskey on a new finish. I wanted frames straight off their welding tables. With all the marks still on them. They were unhappy about that. People often over-analyse Ti frames, and they weren’t happy about them going out super-raw.
We’ve reached a compromise on the finish, or rather lack of finish. Ragley frames will be “scrappy brushed” – just to remove welding debris – rather than brush polished or media blasted. Gives a totally individual raw industrial finish which will age wonderfully, polish as your knees rub it, be easy to buff big scratches out of (which you can’t do on a satin).We’ll have some ace stickers which are going to look punchy and poppy and cool against the raw finished Ti. And if you want to sit there for a while with a pan scourer and some furniture polish, you can do it to your hearts content.
Of course, if you’re one of those people who is going to go down the “I’ve paid all that money for a frame I want it to look beautiful”, you’ll be getting the idea that this isn’t the model for you.
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Jon 9:47 am on March 28, 2009 | #
IMO you should either go for bomb proof finish or one that looks fine once it’s been ridden through a british winter and crashed a few times.
Adrian 10:57 am on March 28, 2009 | #
in the day when i worked in motorcycles we offered a nickel plated finish ,,, they looked stunning but it meant every frame tube had to be cut and fitted then polished to a full polish before brazing together ,, a lot of extra work,,
Adrian 11:01 am on March 28, 2009 | #
all my bikes now have that scuffed worn look of a hard used bike nothing looks better than a set of xtr cranks with polished edges where the shoes rub ,,, it takes hours on the polishing mob to get the right effect
Adrian 11:11 am on March 28, 2009 | #
my version of wabi sabi,,, a little thing I have nearly finished
http://rides.webshots.com/album/556627612QlGIQC
Ash 1:28 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
So that frame pictured isn’t a Ragley (no seatstay web) -what is it? Something new 😉
shedfire 3:23 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
It’s a Lynskey frame that they just did the process on.
Ash 4:23 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
I rather like the ‘blast’ finish – it is very similar to the finish we use on our Ti jewellery – but I guess removing another process in the ‘raw’ frame helps keep the costs down?
I’m wondering if a bike really needs stickers? Since you’re going down the route of minimalism/pure function only…. and the Ragley looks great without any….. but hey you’ve probably considered this anyway!
jaycmx1 4:25 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
i once polished one of my motocross frames.looked mint till i rode it and it just showed up all the marks straight away.every scratch and mark off my boots and knees.NEVER AGAIN!
Stuart Field 5:07 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
Have you made any announcements on the pricing yet, or is this dependent on home many you commit to up front?
shedfire 5:09 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
We have committed. Pricing announced soon but typical lynskey ballpark.
desf 6:39 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
I want one. Everything I have read about it fits in with the bike I see in my head. I guess the price will be only thing I won’t like.
miketually 9:29 pm on March 28, 2009 | #
I love things that that wear and look better as they wear. Wooden chopping boards, Brooks saddles, proper wooden floors. Bikes that are worn look brill – smooth metal showing through the block on cranks look excellent.